If walls could talk, the Peteenteet Museum and Cultural Arts Center in Payson would have some stories to tell, and one mother-daughter duo hopes to play a role in telling some of those stories through some special equipment and most importantly, their gifts.
One June 17 at 9:45 p.m. Jennifer and Mary Heath from “Pair-o-Normal Girls” will lead a group of people at Peteetneet through what they are calling a “Public Ghost Investigation.”
Jennifer, who is the mother, said she has long felt a closeness to spirits since she was a child, and it has been the past several years when she has been dedicating her life to tapping into what she describes as a spiritual gift. Mary has a similar story of having what many call a sixth sense, and the two of them are working side-by-side to communicate with what they say are spirits in the paranormal realm.
But, unlike many who communicate with the paranormal, Jennifer and Mary said that they approach it in a respectful manner.
“Spirits are people; they just don’t have a physical body,” Mary said. “If you were to run into someone on the street, you wouldn’t just yell at them and tell them to go away. The same thing is with spirits. You want to be respectful of their space and talk to them the way you would talk to a person you meet everyday.”
Peteetneet has a very rich history, and is a place where people from all over come to visit both inside and outside the building to learn about the history of Payson and the various time periods. An organization called People Preserving Peteetneet runs daily tours that also include talking about the origin of the building, which was that of a school that got its name from Chief Peteetneet from a band of the Timpanogos tribe.
It is this rich history that Jennifer and Mary are the most excited about exploring during their upcoming paranormal tour.
“I’m not too familiar with the location on purpose so that when I get there, I am more aware of what I am picking up and not too focused on where I am and the history. But what I do know is that Peteetneet got that name from an indigenous Native American chief, and that it also has pioneer history,” Mary explained.
“Previously, when we have been to locations where indigenous cultures and pioneer cultures mix, there are some very different energies when communicating with the paranormal,” she continued. “You may get different responses depending on if you are speaking with someone who is Native American versus if you are speaking to someone who was a pioneer. I’m excited to go to the building because of that, based on previous experiences.”
Jennifer explained that while they do connect with spirits while conducting these paranormal experiences, that it is often the various energies that are felt due to what she calls an energy imprint. She said that everyone leaves these imprints just by being inside a building.
“We understand that it was a school, and there will most likely be children spirits,” Jennifer said. “It’s an elementary school from a different time period where things were run very differently. You could run into a different energy than you are used to at, say, a school today. All that built up energy that isn’t intelligent could be sticking around there. … If you attend a location for a while, you kind of leave a little bit of yourself there – an energy imprint – because you were there for a long time. What was going on in your life and your emotions, that’s what stays there. That emotional imprint.”
Both Jennifer and Mary said that they understand that there are skeptics who may not believe in what they do, but that there are those who are intrigued and want to be open to learning more. They said that events like these are a good way to help educate the public on what they believe is very much real, but that holding public events isn’t what they normally do.
“Our team does mostly house cases,” Jennifer explained. “I don’t have cameramen, and we aren’t here to put content out. It’s about communicating with spirits respectfully. When we do events like these, we take whatever we make to help fund the home cases – many that we do free of charge. We want to teach people how to communicate safely and respectfully with the spirits at paranormal locations.”
The event has a limited number of tickets open that can be purchased by scanning the QR Code.
For more information on what Jennifer and Mary do, they can be found on Facebook by searching Pair-O-Normal Girls